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Writers' Room: Mystery Comics Vol. 2 #485

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Intro

It's the first of our monthly episodes! A January story in January!

Show Notes:

Run Time: 1:53:41

We talk about stunts and snakes, make up fake celebrities, and even answer your questions?! Wow! Off to a great start for 2024!

Join us next week for Episode #273: Lifeline encounters Waykeep! What does that mean? Time will tell!

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Summary

Overview

  • So we’re into 2024 and they’ve stated a gimmick for the year in which the issue for Writers’ Room episodes will be from the month it currently is, so we’re looking at a January issue for today. Right away they’ve set themselves a challenge in that the topic for today is Stuntman vs. Night Snake and those characters are around for a very short time before OblivAeon. Night Snake first appeared in Southwest Sentinels #2 from April 2011. Stuntman first shows up in October 2013, Mystery Comics vol. 2 #482 (in going over this they also realize that since Ambuscade’s last appearance was Temporal Targets #6 in 2010 that Ansel G. Moreau was absent from comics for 3 years - astonishing considering that he was a popular character in the era). That means that the earliest this story could occur is in January 2014 and the latest it can be is January 2015.
  • With that constraint in mind, let’s look at the possible books it could happen in. Justice Comics 2014 (2015 is the first appearance of Threadbear vs. Fashion). Cosmic Tales is open but seems wrong. Mystery Comics works for either, as does Arcane Tales. Tome of the Bizarre is not available. Freedom Five could possibly work if they really wanted it to… This seems like a Justice Comics or Mystery Comics thing, but let’s keep looking. Fanatic is available. The Savage Haka #310 in 2014 could totally have Haka working with Ansel G. Moreau to fight Night Snake. That could be fun with the caveat that they don’t want Haka/Stuntman to step on the toes of Mainstay/Stuntman. They joke around a bit more about other titles (RevoCorp Presents where even Benchmark can’t manage to pull attention away from Stuntman), but Mystery Comics is where they land. January 2014, #485. They could do 2015, but there’s an awful lot of “getting stuff ready for OblivAeon* happening there (or they could even go with 2016 for even more OblivAeon-related goings on).
  • Stuntman is, in a lot of ways, wish-fulfillment for Ambuscade fans. It’s him doing his thing, but we can see his face and leaning into the meme of Ambuscade more than Ambuscade ever really did, himself. I mean, he’s doing the superhero thing while calling himself “Stuntman” and displaying one of the most recognizable faces in the world. Heck, he probably even has more of a French accent than Ambuscade (at least, Stuntman’s dialog probably gets written with the accent on display more than Ambuscade did). They think that Stuntman is Ansel playing a role like any other, though - he probably plays up the accent more as part of the bit (and likely did in some of his film roles as well - there’s definitely movies where they have him play down the accent too, or try to; there’s likely at least one where he’s ostensibly just supposed to be American but he can’t shake the accent entirely or they want his character to be British and so you get him attempting to speak with an appropriate accent).
  • Okay, they’re happy with this slot. Night Snake has been around for 3 years at this point and while he started out as purely a Southwest Sentinels villain he’s now fair game for everybody. This doesn’t have to be a major villain plot, though. This can easily just be Stuntman running across some scheme and getting involved.
  • How funny is this issue? How funny is this issue intended to be? They think that it is funny, but it’s not intended as a comedic issue. It’s not slapstick. It’s not a comedy, but it still winds up being funny. Most of Stuntman’s issues probably wind up funny in the way that Die Hard is funny. They’re action movie issues plus the baggage of what Ansel G. Moreau brings with him as a character. He’s always good at doing action hero stuff, but his lack of self-awareness undercuts anybody’s ability to take him seriously.
  • Knowing how funny the issue winds up being is important for figuring out the plot. This isn’t going to be “Night Snake turns everybody in Rook City into a snake” - it’s not a joke of a plot. Adam considers a “Bride of Frankenstein” thing where maybe he kidnaps some specific lady to turn her into another snake person so that he isn’t alone. Christopher considers instead that it’s less about loneliness and more about people’s general response to him. He kidnaps some beloved media personality to turn them into a snake person - people love this person despite being a snake person, therefore they should be less creeped out by him. Like, he kidnaps Keanu Reeves - somebody who is famous for their acting, but is also good at the whole “being a celebrity” thing. Somebody who is well-beloved. One of the various Chrises, maybe Cate Blanchett. That kind of person. Maybe he gets several to better the odds of people wanting to get on board the “is okay with snake people” train. Having C-list actor Ansel G. Moreau save these A-list celebrities is also pretty funny.
  • Do we, in 2014, name-drop real celebrities or make parody celebrities? The latter. 1) It’s safer. 2) It’s funnier. Kris Shemswerth (delightful himbo actor). Beyond-zay (singer, pop star, boss lady energy). LeBrawn Jim (sports icon making his way into other entertainment areas). Dante Serpenta, Night Snake, kidnaps them to turn them into snake people so that the population at large has to become okay with snake people, including him.
  • How does he kidnap them? Probably all at once from some event rather than individually, if only for story expedience. Maybe some kind of gala and Ansel G. Moreau was there too and so knows what went down. Or he’s not part of it, but he’s just nearby in the hopes that he can manage to finagle his way in. Some kind of charity auction in Rook City (bid on things like dinner with LeBrawn Jim, Kris Shemswerth coming to your corporate event, Beyond-zay doing a small private concert - these are high-end items). They consider very briefly having Night Snake sneak into the even in a trenchcoat and bidding on the three of them, but simplicity wins out and they just have the three celebrities there, the lights go out, and when the lights come back up they’re missing. What happens is that he’s set up trap doors in the floor and when the lights went out snakes come up, wrap up the celebrities, and drag them back down into the sewers or whatever. Then a pre-recorded message comes up on the big screen behind the stage where Night Snake lays out his plan.
  • While that’s going on, Stuntman is trying to get past the door security and can see this. Since he’s outside, let’s have something slightly more interesting than the lights going out. Like a flash-bang. Or “serpent gas” that temporarily paralyses people, but they’re still awake, but since he’s outside Ansel is unaffected. He pursues the snakes into the sewers. While Night Snake is a man who was turned into a snake, Stuntman runs into some snakes that were turned into mans. They’re snakes that, Trogdor-style, have beefy arms and legs [so more like Strong Bad’s first attempt at a dragon rather than the more iconic Trogdor]. Stuntman then fights like 3 or 4 of these guys. Let’s say that when he defeats them they revert into just being snakes for some reason. Whatever method Night Snake is using to mess with snakes/people it’s unstable and so something horrible (other than just winding up as a snake person) might happen to the victims.
  • Does Night Snake have a sewer lab or something? The snakes were just using the sewers as a means of conveyance and he’s got a better location set up. Like an abandoned high rise. That would be a good location for a fight and they could do a thing where Night Snake is going to fall off the building but Stuntman tries to catch him or something, but Night Snake bites him or something and falls to his “death”. Something like that - we’ll get there.
  • Stuntman finds an exit from the sewer that’s half-open as he follows the snakes and it comes out in front of this old, condemned sky scraper. He assumes that this is where he needs to go and walks in. He promptly falls through a trap door. Y’know, let’s cool it with the trap doors and the trap is in the elevator. Why is the elevator working? Maybe the workers who are actually involved in decommissioning the place need it to move around. Christopher really wants Stuntman to get incapacitated right away so that Night Snake can monologue at him, though, and so doesn’t want it to be the elevator and more of a snake trap somehow.
  • The move here is that Ambuscade is stalking through the building, unaware that the hunter has become the hunted. Some movement behind him gets his attention and when he turns to look at whatever that was a boa constrictor or something wraps him up.
  • Night Snake figured that some do-gooder would come to stop him. What he didn’t know was that it would be yet another celebrity! Ansel G. Moreau, action movie star noteworthy for doing his own stunts! Night Snake is an Ansel fanboy. This is great! In joking about what Ansel-as-snake-man should call himself they get into a goof about how he can’t be “Snake Hunter” because that sounds like he hunts snakes and he can’t be “Night Snake” because that’s what Dante calls himself they realize that he chose that name because he’s a huge Night Hunter fan. Like, that wasn’t the original idea back in Southwest Sentinels #2, but this writer thinks it’s fun and manages to get it past the editors, so now it’s a thing.
  • Ansel is brought to where the others are (cue some hilarity as they try to figure out if the others actually know anything he was in). Night Snake does some monologuing about his transition to being a snake man and how afterwards he spent some time trying to figure out a way to turn himself back, but now he sees that this was the foolish man part of his brain. Instead of turning back, he should move forward and bring others with him into a glorious snaky future - the Serpentimes. I’ve already figured out how to give arms and legs to snakes - in addition to the ones Ansel fought earlier we see several “lab assistants” here, just walking around doing lab stuff. They’re not particularly bright, but can follow directions he gives them. He likely can’t make people into full-on snake men like himself, but can give them various snaky qualities.
  • He actually starts this process on Kris Shemswerth and he starts getting snake eyes and the forked tongue, etc. That distraction is what Ansel has been waiting for - he uses his knowledge of kung fu and pressure points to extricate himself from the snake’s grip. He leaps forth and begins fighting Night Snake. The fight scene is pretty cool. Night Snake is upset that the movie star he idolized is fighting him. There’s some snappy dialogue. Ansel manages to free the others and so while he’s busy with Night Snake they fight the snakes-with-arms-and-legs.
  • We absolutely have LeBrawn Jim “basketball fighting” these snake mans. Like, balling a snake up and slamming it down a garbage chute. There’s probably some joke like that from each of them. Like Beyond-kay suddenly belts out a high note to stun a snake which she then punches or something - oh, she gives it a kick like from the Single Ladies video. What’s Kris Shemswerth doing? Oh, he’s backing away from an approaching snake in fear. As it gets up to him he suddenly attacks. “You thought I was afraid? Acting!”
  • Okay, so we have Night Snake vs. Stuntman going on, with the former wrapping himself around the latter and whatnot. Once he’s got Ansel somewhat immobilized he calls “To me, my snake-men! Bring me my serpent serum!” (Because Christopher can have this guy say that, he’s going to.) It’s at that point that the others have their moments preventing the snake-men from doing so. The fight continues, Ansel says that he should have a taste of his own medicine and he injects Night Snake with some of the serum.
  • They have a slight disagreement on what exactly this does to him. They settle on both of their ideas. Initially, what this does is that Night Snake starts growing altogether too many arms and legs and is really body-horror. But as the process goes on the limbs all wither away (like what happened to the defeated snake men Ansel fought earlier) and at the end he’s left as just a snake. The snake tries to escape by slithering off into the darkness, but Stuntman follows, finds a large black snake, which he catches in a bag.
  • Later, Ansel watches a a news interview where Kris Shemswerth, looking normal after his serpentine features faded, describes the ordeal and thanks that amazing actor and action movie star, Brice Willis. Cue Stuntman yelling at his TV about how nobody should confuse the two of them. He doesn’t even do his own stunts!
  • We close with Ansel addressing the black snake he’s got in a terrarium. There’s some dialogue here that hangs a lampshade on that it’s a little weird that Night Snake’s transformation seems to be permanent unlike the others, but he’ll take care of him, etc. Lightning flashes and we see Night Snake observing through a window. That was apparently just some random black snake that was part of Night Snake’s “gang” - but now Ansel G. Moreau has not only captured that snake, but he has captured the attention of Night Snake!
  • They like how this fleshed out Night Snake a bit. He’s got minions. He’s doing mad scientist stuff, but it mostly consists of injecting his own blood into snakes to give them some arms and legs for a while and assuming that doing so to people will give them snake-like qualities. That’s as far as he feels the need to go with it.

Questions

  • Is Night Snake in the Telenovellaverse (given that he was an early Southwest Sentinels villain and what we have seen of that universe featured them)? Certainly in that universe would have Serpiente de Noche. However, we see so very little of the Telenovellaverse - it’s basically just there for OblivAeon to destroy. Let me tell you, though - Serpiente de Noche is one handsome snake. He’s muy romantico and is a real Lothario among snakes.
  • How would Night Snake get along with other snake-related characters? You said that Ghost Viper wouldn’t be into him [that’s true], but any possible fun interactions between Night Snake and the following snake-themed characters?
    • Ophidia the Deceiver? Not so much “snake-themed” - more “actual ghost snake”. There might be something there, but she doesn’t have “snake plots” or whatever. Maybe he tries to channel her essence into something to turn people into snakes or she makes herself look like the ghost of a snake woman that loves him or something to mess with Night Snake in order to get him to do things for her/GloomWeaver.
    • Geb of the Ennead? There’s not a lot of overlap there. Sure, Geb is snaky, but he has very different goals. He has a snake head, but he’s “Egypt-themed” not “snake-themed”.
    • The Slumbering Serpent from the Nexus of the Void? He would be ecstatic to learn that this snake existed. Becoming friends with that snake might just become his life’s purpose. Awakening the sleepy snake could be a plot.
    • Quetzalcoatl? Eh… They’re both snaky and are both primarily Southwest Sentinels villains, but that could work against the pair-up. They want different things regarding their nemeses. Like, maybe they team up against their common foes, but are defeated when the heroes manage to turn them against one another (again, because while Quetzalcoatl is snaky-looking, he’s not interested in doing snake things like Night Snake is).
  • Back in Extrasode #6 (Adam and Christopher Destroy the World), you mentioned a potential doomsday plot for Night Snake where he worked with some scientists to try to make himself not a snake, but it didn’t work and so he decided to therefore turn everybody else into snakes; while that’s not a canon story, does it imply that Night Snake doesn’t really want to be a snake man anymore? Well, turns out they kind of covered this in today’s episode. At first he did, but then he realized the folly of his ways and leans into it.
  • In the February 2019 update to the Sentinel Comics RPG Kickstarter, you write that the Dark Watch source book will cover the kinds of gritty stories associated with that team and Rook City and among the listed villains was one Night Snake! Wasn’t he a Southwest Sentinels villain? What we do know of him doesn’t particularly strike me as being “gritty” in the Dark Watch theme - did I get the wrong impression about him seeming more of a “loveable, over-the-top” kind of villain? Can you tell us how/why he wound up in Rook City or what made him an enemy for Dark Watch? Is he mainly considered a street-level villain or does he do something that brings him up to the level of infamy of the other villains named in that sentence of the update (Zhu Long and Chairman Pike)? You didn’t get the wrong impression, although maybe “loveable” is pushing things. “Enjoyable” maybe. Once the Southwest Sentinels are gone from the southwest, it’s harder to keep villains there. He is not a threat of the level of Zhu Long and the Chairman. He’s solidly street-level and they think that this episode does a good job showcasing what kinds of things he gets up to. He’s not appreciably different in the RPG era from his earlier appearances. He’s got enough going on that you could use him as the main villain of an RPG session.
  • In the Southwest Sentinels/Void Guard episode, you introduced us to Night Snake, but then in the most recent Editor’s Note you wrote it as Nightnsnake in the show notes - I imagine this episode’s show notes clears things up, but which is it? It’s Night Snake - Christopher occasionally writes it down wrong.
  • How public is Ansel G. Moreau’s reputation as Stuntman? How’s he finding time to do the hero thing now that he’s also beginning to work on Night Hunter 4? They think that today’s episode is a good view on what his life as a hero is like. “Ah, this is a good opportunity for some fame!” He is doing absolutely nothing to separate his life/identity as movie star Ansel G. Moreau from that of the hero Stuntman. He may not even really think of himself as a “hero”, really. While he’s not using his notoriety as an actor to boost his profile as a hero, he fights against people doing bad things, all the while name-dropping himself and noting that he’s available for casting or special events. Isn’t he just awesome? There’s also a running joke through his story, though, that he doesn’t manage to garner any news coverage. The joke at the end of today’s issue where he’s mistaken for another actor who looks nothing like him is a representative example.
  • Did Ansel ever wind up having any mishaps/injuries due to his stunt performances in his film career? How did he handle any such marks, even temporary though they might be? Would a bruise on his face lead to a diva moment or would he lean into it for the role? Where does his vanity end and his dedication to his craft begin? He’s definitely gotten scrapes, bumps, bruises, etc. during his stunt acting (and not stunt acting - even in a non-action role he does his own stunts!) career. None of those were at the level of the truly horrific and disfiguring scar that led to his long hiatus from acting. The permanent nature of that particular injury is what makes it a bigger deal than the run-of-the-mill injury. He’s managed to figure out a way to work around his repulsive visage - when he shows up in 2013 we’ve reached an era where CGI can make him look almost as good as he used to. Man, thinking of an aging Ansel G. Moreau having to deal with those implications is fun (although in the RPG era his acting career is well and truly over).
  • After OblivAeon, Ansel has both his powers and his beautiful face (and most of the skin on his torso) - if through some means he could get one of those back (genie wish, super science, etc.) which would it be? Would the answer be different for his Vertex counterpart? Choosing between his powers or his face, he’d choose his face. He spends most of his time as Stuntman without powers anyway. He is an able combatant, with a depth of experience and knowledge, and “Main Character Plot Armor” due to his time in the movies. What would be interesting is if it was a genie situation and he was not specific enough in wishing to be made whole again, he’d still have the scar. Another way to twist things would be to make him fully healed, no scar, but also no skills/experience/etc. He’s just a pretty face.
  • [Outro mentions excitement at future details about his time, post-OblivAeon, as Night Hunter and that it’s hoped that he’ll get a feature in the Dark Watch RPG source book - this is confirmed.]
  • So, we know of Stuntman’s exploits with Mainstay (in Road Warriors and the encounter with Borr during OblivAeon), but we know very little about his time as a hero otherwise - what are some other notable stories for Stuntman? Well, there’s that time he fought Night Snake… There are definitely others. He’s kind of the opposite of Benchmark. Benchmark shows up with a real push for “you’re going to love this character” from the editorial staff, but readers really don’t (at least during that initial push - they get there eventually). Stuntman was kind of a “okay, fine, we’ll bring Ansel G. Moreau back” and people loved it. And the writers kept writing him to be more and more ridiculous and the readers were into it. Submit more stories for voting!
  • Do Stuntman and Haka share an adventure to at least mostly bury Ambuscade’s hatchet? Certainly - there’s gotta be some Haka/Stuntman story. There likely aren’t a lot of them, but at least one. Stuntman would be worried about the situation but Haka basically gives him an “It’s cool”, just as long as he keeps his nose clean.
  • Does Stuntman ever get a chance to play a leading role in one of Grimm’s tales? They don’t think that happened - it might have, but they don’t have a specific story in mind.
  • [Also, prompted by mention of Road Warriors - they’re going to be working on going back to have Adam draw up covers for issues/episodes that are basically Writers’ Room episodes, just that had the poor luck to have been done before Writers’ Rooms were a thing. Now, I’m far enough behind on these summaries that the “we’ll talk about it during this month’s Editor’s Note” timing has already passed, but this is a thing that will be happening - in fact Adam already did A Day in the Life: Unity.]
  • What kinds of story space exists for Stuntman episode suggestions? Unfortunately, things are rather limited given that he’s only around for 3 years. There’s that Stuntman/Operative story they’ve mentioned before. They think they gave a good feel for the character and what kinds of things you could expect from him in today’s episode. Think “hard luck hero”. He takes over the kinds of stories that Setback had for a long time. By now Setback is somebody who’s not down on his luck and works with a team and has a certain amount of responsibility. “Setback has become a more, like, kind of Cyclops-ish character.” The power has a downside but he’s gotten very good at mitigating the luck and cares deeply about doing the right thing. So, the kinds of stories that would have been Setback’s in the ’90s are, in the ’10s, Stuntman stories. It’s not that he’s unlucky in the way that Setback is, but he’s perpetually down on his luck.
  • [Entertaining letter from Ansel G. Moreau that basically asks about Stuntman action figures that libelously conflate Ansel G. Moreau with that villain Ambuscade.] There are probably some Stuntman action figures that have swappable heads and one has the Ambuscade mask - or it’s specifically an Ansel G. Moreau playset and it has accessories for both Ambuscade and Stuntman and you can set him up however you want. By the time that he’s Stuntman the action figure landscape is so weird.
  • Can Ambuscade/Stuntman fathom the concept of being aromantic/asexual? Like, if Stuntman and Argent Adept were hanging out and it came up the concept would likely confuse him.
  • You’ve said that Ansel has… uh… kissed lots of people, but after OblivAeon he’s in rough shape - is there any post-OblivAeon stories that have time to get into him longing for intimacy or whatever (more dramatic/tragic and less comedic)? That’s definitely part of the Night Hunter story. His stories are very much more noir than comedy. One of the big missteps of Sentinel Comics after OblivAeon was to make Ansel G. Moreau a sad sack/not at all comedic character. There’s still good stories told there, but it’s a very different direction for the character. In the Metaverse there’s probably a fairly sizable “why would they do this to this character?” reaction to the Night Hunter era.
  • [Preamble to a letter prompts a comment that there is probably a prominent segment of the readership that ships Expatriette and Young Legacy.]
  • Why did writers decide to give Expatriette and Young Legacy such a close, actively-keeping-in-touch-with-one-another relationship? It kind of makes sense given how Expatriette related to Legacy initially. Writers in the Metaverse probably did it for the same reason that Christopher and Adam did - because it’s interesting. We had the interactions between Paul and Amanda go the way it did, so why not lean on that by having her interact more with Paul’s daughter who’s much closer in age to her. Having a non-powered character be a “big sister” to one of the most powerful characters in the setting is another aspect to consider.
  • How much do they change in one another’s books? I assume that Felicia would be written differently if she were showing up in Rook City Renegades, but even if she’s not, how does she operate differently in such a different setting? How does Expat’s approach to things change as she gets involved in “silly college stories” and high-flying capes-and-tights stuff? Calling them “silly” is a mischaracterization. They’re still pretty serious superhero stuff. The college setting doesn’t change that. The America’s Newest Legacy book does get more into her “balancing super life with college life” stuff and that gets carried over into her time as Legacy post-OblivAeon, but it’s not depicted as silly. Maybe just lighter than the super stuff. They don’t think that the characters are really written all that differently in the different books. By the time we’re discussing here Expat’s already had a lot of her rough edges softened. This isn’t the murderin’ Expatriette from the ’80s or the super-edgy one from the ’90s. We’ve already had a decade for her and Pete to work on each other. The amount of maturation that the other Dark Watch characters undergo while that team is active is part of the reason to bring Harpy on board.
  • When Legacy does her Expatriette impression, what does her speech bubble look like? Is there a change in font or border color, etc.? There wasn’t a style of speech bubble that was specific to Expatriette. When she’s doing that impression, Legacy’s speech bubble is probably all jaggedy and stuff. What tells the readers what’s happening is Expatriette asking her sotto voce if she’s doing an impression of her.
  • Which parent is the first to call Felicia upon hearing about a villain being defeated in Indiana? Did Paul ever have to be talked out of flying off to help with a situation that made the news? A lot of situations get resolved fast enough that there’s not really a chance for him to make it there if he wanted to. Some longer events he probably could but he’s also a busy guy with his own things to do. We probably get the occasional coda in Felicia’s stories where she’s talking to one parent or the other about something she handled after the fact. That’s part of why her making a call for help leads readers to assume she’s calling her dad, but then it winds up being Expat. Legacy is probably aware that the child taking things on on their own is part of the training process. A notable thing for her is that she’s the first Legacy to be Legacy while also having a living father.
  • Were there any editorial concerns about Expatriette bringing guns to a college campus? How did that go over in the Metaverse (assuming similar tragedies happened in the Metaverse as happened here)? There probably was at least some internal discussion about needing to be aware of what they were doing by having her in that environment. By this point in the character’s existence, Expatriette probably has a different vibe than just “shooter” - her guns are just the means by which she delivers clever gadgetry. She’s been using trick ammo long enough that it’s possible to get away with this. They probably still did get at least some angry letters about it.
  • Is there an occasion that sets up a dramatic double-reveal of Dr. Gregory/Antimox and Felicia Fields/Young Legacy, only to have the situation resolve in a way that they both keep their secrets? Is professor Gregory ever enough of a feature in the comics that we really see him trying to keep his villainy a secret? We see a bit of him having the play things carefully, but he’s enough of a careful/planning type guy behind the scenes anyway that it’s not too difficult. Especially after the featured issue here where we know that Young Legacy and Dr. Gregory interact we probably get at least a few issues that involve near misses of this type. He finds out her identity before she finds out his. Do we think that he finds out before the end of the Multiverse era? Yeah. She doesn’t learn about him by that time, though. She does fight Antimox by OblivAeon, she just doesn’t know his identity.
  • You said that Expatriette takes Doctor Toxica to Rook City jail and this made me think two things 1) Why? and 2) Huh? Why Rook City since the crimes involved here were in Indiana, not Pennsylvania? Is that jail just particularly good at holding supervillains given its location, despite the local corruption (surely Dark Watch knows that it would be run by the Organization)? The idea was that at the end of the issue that while she did bad things here, back in Rook City she’s already actively Wanted. She’s basically treating it as a bounty hunter thing (even if there’s no specific bounty involved) and bringing her to trial there is straightforward. They stop short of saying that the jail is run or owned by the Organization, but it is beholden to the Organization. That doesn’t guarantee that people will join the Organization just because they’re in jail there. They do think that Rook City and Megalopolis, by necessity, have prisons that are better at holding supervillains than most other places. There is not “good” answer, but it’s a “this will do” answer.
  • What do the writers do to make it seem like putting a villain behind bars is a reasonable option given the lack of effective jails that have been demonstrated on the page? There are probably other prisons named that they haven’t put in the time to build out. In the world of Sentinel Comics there’s a level of “and then we send the criminal to prison” as if that is a reasonable response, just like we do in the real world. It’s not good. They could do more on the Sentinel Comics Penal Systems if people wanted a Creative Process on it.

Cover Discussion

  • So, Night Snake fighting Stuntman? How do you feel about putting “Serpentimes” on the cover in 2014? It’s a fun joke and while most things don’t have words on the cover you can have them. We could do a thing where it looks like Stuntman is turning into a snake man but that’s likely giving things away too much.
  • Can we have the background be, like, the gala event and/or having a lot of camera flashbulbs? If Adam can figure out a way to do it that doesn’t make the cover too busy he’ll give it a try.

Patreon

  • If you’re considering the Patreon, they’re going to be trying a new thing. There are some Creative Process things they need to do for product development stuff and they’re thinking of doing these as bonus Patreon-only episodes. They need to do them at least once a year, so don’t think that they’re going to be monthly or anything, but they’re doing at least this one they’re recording after this episode and then see how things go from there.